American Healthcare vs Japanese Healthcare

American Healthcare vs Japanese Healthcare



hi good morning I'm Gabe Johansen co-owner of Tricia's fitness and today I've invited Nate Darnell he's a research analyst for diabetes support services and he's going to talk to us a little bit about ionized alkaline water some of the myths and facts around that good morning Nate how are you couldn't worry about doing well thanks for having us to do this morning you're welcome thanks for being here Nate tell us a little bit about the history of alkaline water and ionized water sure sure well I think it's important thanks for letting everyone know what my background is I work with a community outreach organization here at Salem and it's geared predominately towards improving quality of life the diabetic population and a couple of years ago I was introduced to the technology you're referring to and coming from a scientific background I was very skeptical of the technology and I guess fortunately I was exposed to it from a Fulbright Scholar so she kind of strong-armed me into looking at some of the general agenda clinical documentation and they actually found additionally we've since put together an entire compendium but what I also found in the process was it was that there was so much misinformation online and it was it was overwhelming he was overwhelming even even for you know some with a technical background it seemed that there were people who were making all kinds of certain health claims about it and then there were healthcare practitioners that were claiming that it was complete snake oil and bunk and my job was to kind of sift out the truth you know from you know what was not truthful and to kind of shoot down the middle and figure out you know what's actually after and so he took me about two and a half years to do that and and ultimately what I discovered over time was that there was a historical narrative of the technology which is that's the many people believe that it originated in Japan and it didn't actually come from Japan it actually came from Great Britain by in late 18-hundreds and he was used predominantly for disinfection purposes then it was used in World War one for surgical disinfection that it was only during World War two that the technology was introduced to Japan and they begin using it following a lot of the devastating consequences of nuclear radiation exposure starvation they had a broken medical system after World War two they had lack of pharmaceutical medications and by happenstance they discovered that electrolyzer abused water which is the correct technical term for ionized alkaline water was very effective at reducing intestinal abnormal fermentation dyspepsia has indigestion and from that point forward it became kind of like a an aspirin to the Japanese medical system and so it's been around for several decades and it's really the refining in Japan but that's not really where it came from interestingly enough it was in the United States and the 1920s as well and it's hard for me to decipher exactly why you didn't continue in the healthcare part of the United States I would hazard to guess because many of the byproducts are not packable the natural that it didn't fit into the business paradigm of Western medicine and again Japan has a very different medical system we have the United States they have a socialized health care system it was really rebuilt after World War two from the standpoint of genuine disease prevention right not from the standpoint of disease treatment alone which is what we practice in United States and that's why we realized so heavily today from a super medications instead of you know preventive measures and again my opinion is that Titan market business model than to the in-game of optimal health so really it was refining in Japan it was developed in Great Britain within the United States interesting enough we used it on the the Apollo in Chennai space capsules Japanese pop water heat electricity for the astronauts in the United States it kind of remained pigeon-holed in both the aerospace and a lot of industries and it really didn't come back to the United States until about ten years ago and I think the real challenge was was that when it did come back into the US market it didn't come through academic or health care channels it came through entrepreneurs great well how is it pretty doing today so far great good great well good like I told the other classes I'm just like my dog I have a TV which is attention deficit destructive disobedient disorder so if you follow the classification of a TD or ADHD you're in good company I don't care stand ups were around whatever steer especially your neighbors okay I'm gonna try to stay on track with falling kind of a linear progression but if any questions happen we might divert all those things so Kelly wanted me to talk today or at least present information to you because I said on board of directors at diabetes Support Services and part of that is functioning as a research analyst to review technologies that are used not only in Western healthcare but from around the world and to really separate the wheat from the chaff so like separately evidence-based research from all the marketing hype and an entry introduce you guys to some of the newer tools that we use for health management especially within the diabetic population okay it's all that kind of good in that shell okay all right so one of the breaking things were working with right now is hydrogen gas and using that with our clinical diabetic population and that has in your medical training what reversing training has anybody ever talked to you about this okay all right so I want to be very clear that when I'm talking about hydrogen gas I'm referring to h2 not h+ h+ is really acidic don't drink that bad okay h2 is is two hydrogen atoms with extra electrons so they can do any electrons they're actually very very very unique in that hydrogen also in hydrogen gas also known as dihydrogen or diatomic hydrogen or or I urge it and tomato tomahto potato pecan whichever one you decide to pick they're all the same thing what's very unique about it is that it can pass through it's small enough to pass through cellular membranes including the growth of the blood-brain barrier so it can immediately arrest things like hydroxyl radicals which are the most cytotoxic radicals of all human body and h2 can immediately find with that suppressive the immediately converts into water so okay well perhaps but right now what we know is that the hydrogen gas immediately finds with a hydroxyl and you just get water out of it so I mean that's that's what the science says thus far and there's no negative effect or there's no cytotoxicity at all and and that was also fortunately based on thirty years of military research where they used it for super DC diving where they had navy divers breathing a very specialized exotic gas mixture called hydraulics which was 49 percent hydrogen 50 percent helium and 1 percent oxygen and they would breed that down to like 602 and thousand feet something crazy hmm yeah and don't what they realized was that there was little snow cytotoxicity than that at all even at those very high concentrations so with that said there was an interesting phenomenon that transpired in the early 1990s in Norton now Germany and there's a slate mine it's in that location in Germany it was a slate mine in World War two and it's it's been converted into this special resort and there were a large number of individuals that were suffering from terminal illnesses that went there for their last hurrah and coincidentally many of them had spontaneous revisions from their diseases while they were there and it was enough to where local medical professionals come into this and were really curious and so they went to investigate and indeed they did document that a large number of people did encounter spontaneous remissions and they didn't know how it was happening long story short I'm not I'm not sure or how it really transpired that they were able to enroll some Japanese his assistant scientists who were able to travel to Germany to perform quantitative analysis on the area including the cave and the water just so happens that this slate mine itself had been converted into a large wine cellar it was this large cave but it had a stream running through it the stream that photographer and the Japanese scientists discovered there was a large quantity of hydrogen gas that was being involved in the cake and this was coming out of solution it was in the water so the water was reaching hydrogen gas which it stays in solution for a period of time and then he starts going through standard kinetics and after 24 hours it's kind of out of you know the water in after 48 hours or at 24 hours it's a half-life in 48 hours it turns out that it's floating around in the environment so these people that were going into this wine cellar or this area of resort were not only respirating hydrogen gas they were also drinking the what they call therapy water and that was coined the north and how phenomenon was yeah so they the physicians encountering this did a follow-up study on 411 diabetic patients and what they discovered during this study was that after six days of consuming this water biomarkers started changing measurable LDL cholesterol was dropped by about 15 percent of HDL cholesterol was elevated by 7 to 8 percent they encountered significant increases in insulin sensitivity and some cases they had complete reversal metabolic syndrome in diabetes type 2 you and I was two liters per day which is the equivalent of between four and eight glasses in American terms okay so that's that's where I came to this from the diabetic side now why I started investigating this is because I started investigating a Japanese healthcare system we started noticing with our diabetic population in the United States that quality of life wasn't what we thought it should be in their later years in Western medicine generally speaking diabetes is handled to some extent through dietary control to some extent through physical fitness but to a large extent synthetic pharmaceutical medications the problem with this approach in the long term and and I don't want to harp on Western medicine too bad because we're good at what we do which is emergency management or great if you get like an arm lopped off this is the place to be if you want to put back on right but when it comes to long-term care that numbers don't lie we're 49th in the world as far as longevity and I think over the past like month the first day infant mortality rate for all industrialized nations we were number one every week we have with the highest death rate for first day offence of any industrialized nation on the planet and that was that was research they just broke over the like the last month or two yeah so when it comes to long-term health the United States these are these are numbers that you really have to take a look at same thing with the diabetics synthetic pharmaceutical medications there are much higher risk of developing cardiovascular disease and cancer as a result of chronic inflammation and free radical damage right so as they progress in life frequently there are more antibiotics to stave off infections because they have a lack of blood flow to the lower extremities which did more risk for diabetic alteration and inflammation so there are lots of medications after 30 to 50 years then their kidneys take all I can handle then they end up with tubular necrosis nay an affinity with dialysis and then life really sucks and then you have to ask yourself what's the point right so especially once they start encountering a mutations that's a total life changes a game-changer right in a bad way so my my job at DSS that is support services was to look at all the available evidence separate the evidence-based research from the marketing hype and figure out how can we best serve our patients what else is available to weren't using is in fact is this how it has to be done or is this just the way that Western medicine doesn't and technically that's what we encountered which was this is the way Western medicine doesn't is that really because it's towards optimal health or there are other underlying issues involved including both business and politics well the answer is yes and I'm not gonna go into those today but what I hadn't look at was well one of their options are available and then we started looking at the Japanese system which was very unique it's also important to know that the Japanese have the highest life expectancies of any country in the world they also have one of the lowest infant mortality rates of a nation in the world they were number one for years I he has only been past five or six where they've dropped to number three but they've also been new three times they smoked like steel factories so even so they're still doing pretty good right you know pound for pound what's very unique about their medical system though is in the 1950s they implemented something called an engine Doku which roughly translated means human drydock and after World War two they were dealing with a devastating medical system sure just the pharmaceutical supplies lost large loss of life those that were still like they're still dealing with radiation damage starvation malnutrition a litany of issues and to make matters worse policymaking the United States really muscled in wanting to psychologically cripple the Japanese culture because they they were very proud and determined people and if they didn't really crush them they might come back that was that was the philosophy of the time so the Japanese that were left especially the policymakers really did genuinely believe that they might be susceptible to ethnic annihilation and so to preserve their numbers they implemented a process called ninja Dooku which was turned out to be as it progressed with the most progressive and results-oriented disease prevention health care system that were established you and over the past 50 years those numbers bear themselves out they now have the longest life expectancies of a nation or planet and what they did starting the 1950s was they mandated that every single important policymaker engineers CEO contribute to the community having a hospital two weeks out of every year who's like he was like a motel state where they stayed there and they were scrutinized from top to bottom to head off any illnesses and out of that they started developing other methodologies for disease management and as far back as 1965 they began using electrolytes reduced water which is rich in hydrogen gas all the leading to understand the chemical kinetics at the time they just knew that it worked against acid indigestion dyspepsia chronic diarrhea and it was it's kind of their title right I mean or aspirin you know if we had asked for abuse today would be heavily regulated but because it's been around for 80 years or longer you know you just buy over-the-counter very similar so it wasn't until ignored now phenomenon they really realize there's a component of this they could really be used with a diabetic population and that's how I started discovering all this research and it's also interesting to note that if you start going through PubMed and you start looking at all these articles almost none of them down in the United States they're all in foreign countries so the Norton a phenomenon discovered that hydrogen gas alone which is routine consumption could significantly change biomarkers for the better the diabetic population then we have additional studies which that this one's double-blind to see what controlled diabetes type two demonstrating the same concept using synthetically produced hydrogen from electrolysis we can produce hydrogen gas in one of two ways we can either do it through hydrolysis so we could drop magnesium in water and that off gas hydrogen but that's really difficult to control right there's no way to really shut it off or modulated the except just moving my pen it might be safer water but we use basic electrolysis electricity to water what happens what's water h2o right so if you run electricity it breaks it apart right and what do you get so if you do it really rigorously and you completely gasify the water okay if you do that's why all the rockets and stuff of that nature works great it's a byproduct of water right it seems like if you could run that in cars would be great too so if you run a weak electrolysis you can actually stabilize for a period of time the gas in solution so you can stabilize the magma gas in solution for up to 24 hours you'll still have a little bit of lead up so we know for the first four hours it stays at maximum concentration and then over the next 48 hours that instantly off until after 48 hours equilibrium same thing with we can embed oxygen gas and largely created a little program okay and we'll talk a little bit more about that shortly but I think Kellyanne wanted me to share this information with you in large part because she wanted me to open your minds to alternative technologies that perhaps are not being shared in your training and then there's another component not only do we have to worry about the long-term ramifications of negative ramifications of the routine consumption synthetic pharmaceutical medications our physiology but we have to think about the environmental impact as well right so when we start looking at what's happening fifty years after Western medicine went gung-ho on antibiotics and all kinds of pharmaceutical medications and after we deregulated the marketing process and now we have direct to consumer marketing for prescription medications we're now detecting residues from all kinds of prescription medications that are water channeis and in our agent our water supplies including significant amounts of antibiotic resistance okay now the problem with this is that the municipal water treatment plants they were designed 50 and 60 years ago we're never designed to filter out these residues so they're trickling through and up to 93% of them still make it through the system and they end up in a river stream and in our drinking water and there's currently no scientific way to understand how all 2,000 plus of these chemicals residues are going to interact and cause and impact on our long-term health the healthful wildlife our children sometimes are one of the same and and then and in the environment itself right so this is becoming a real problem safety with antibiotic resistance right now as of last month the same time we were getting our negative numbers for infant mortality rates in the United States the chief medical officer in Great Britain indicated that antibiotic resistance in has become such an issue it's now an issue of national security and they're not even dealing with personnel to deal with CRE in CRE is the nasty rated stepchild mersa versus bad CRE terrific and there's no way to really treat it so these are things that we really have to start thinking about with regard to how do we as we proceed with not only Western health care which is healthcare around the world how do we proceed in a way which really produces positive results in ways that cost very little and respect our communities in the environment and that's not necessarily easy challenge especially with our politics and business models in a way you know from from a scientific standpoint is really not that difficult sometimes it's all the middlemen oftentimes that complexity to it part of me will be jibber-jabber well you while I get a drink of water I know I've been dominating the conversation do many questions not at all it's a it will not change the insulin production or black missile production type ones but type ones rustle within their long-term the progression of disease his collateral damage tall there with other organ systems they don't die from that years they die from cardiovascular disease cancer and everything else that's caused by significant muscle rerouting the damage damage so hydrogen gas significantly suppresses free radical damage and the report preserves significant amounts of their tissue and retard the progression of their disease so in the case of someone who is freedom to compromise instead of drinking maybe you know I think like a glass you know every 3 or 4 hours you just give them a little whiskey shot every single hour you know so they're consuming between 1 and 2 liters per day but they're doing on a routine basis so they're not having their bodies and having to wrestle with a large influx of liquid they can just get a little shot you know routine on the other study is that their average stay there was over six days so were the results that they saw if they lasted for a lot of time on that study I don't recall that I know my recollection is that within six days that's when they started seeing the biomarkers change between like two in three days they didn't see that many changes on the subsequent studies that were done hung in June clinical settings because it was they couldn't do a double-blind indicator too many other factors involved but in the double-blind such as this one that was done over a period of 90 days and the benefits were only had as long as the water was being consumed so it's one of those things where you have to keep doing but the good thing is it's not just for diabetics I mean this across the board when you look at the epidemics that are occurring the United States around the world right now almost all of them have the underlying condition of chronic inflammation and free radical damage and if there's a way to arrest that cost effectively and non-toxic ly we can significantly arrest the progression of disease yeah sure with me is there any risk of decreasing the information process to replace you know is there not based on current evidence and that's Andy in large part because hydrogen most of the body very quickly within within 15 after consuming water within 15 to 30 minutes it's already completely circulating throughout the body and it's utilized within three to four hours completely so you have to keep consuming it and the hydrogen gas is different from other and they oxidizes carotenoids and polyphenols like green tea or carotenoids and carrots lycopene from tomatoes those are big molecules and what berries goji the goji berries most of those molecules have a lot of electrons they can donate but they're big and they can't fit through cellular membranes hydrogen can because it's so small so it's very short-lived it doesn't have like hang time like the other molecules doing because elf Loretta tissue like rock will float around for weeks you know and once they bump into a free radical and enjoy and they've got some extra ones to donate how you she doesn't so it's kind of a one-hit wonder but as long as you keep it coming in it'll keep doing its job and so you can respirate it too but that's significantly more challenging because now you've got – floating around in here anything about 4% of the spirit concentration again it's an explosion hazard so the safest and most effective way of taking it in and simply enriching water within tricky and again safe is the most effective ways to remotely be certified elected at large you okay so with regard to tumor treatment cancer treatment in the United States that's a hot potato and for vegetable reasons but this information we can assure you today what you'd be open to because you're kind of the frontline when it comes to health care physicians our well being but oftentimes they're very myopic and you guys deal with real stuff and have a lot more common sense in my experience because you have your feet on the street every single thing so it really boils down to it you guys are really gonna be the ones got even positions the positions coops with a little seminars and stuff and learn about what it's supposed to be cutting edge but generally that's because pharmacy what companies want to top that way not necessarily what actually works the best for optimal health or the community so with regard to hydrogen gas the Air Force colonel I think his name was William Paula five Republican fighter he was the Air Force member was in charge of hyperbaric oxygen therapy and development in the 60s the Air Force or the heavily investing in investigating hyperbaric oxygen following the high-altitude secret surveillance led to the YouTube because that was the first time for Kyle to really climb at super high altitudes breathing one her personal oxygen they weren't sure what the effects going to be on the human body and so about things like hyperoxia and lung burns and premature aging and all that said he moved on from that to work with the Navy and Sealab which was an underwater laboratory where he did studied breathing gases such as hydraulics which is 49 percent hydrogen 50 percent in the in 1 percent oxygen and then he went on to study hyperbaric hydrogen and that's kind of dangerous stuff because you have a highly pressurized environment hydrogen gas and that can be very explosive but there was a hunch in 1967 that because cancer is highly associated with free radical damage which causes DNA denaturing and if there is a way to arrest the free radical damage that we could effectively stall or significantly suppress the development of cancer so that was hypothesis in 1967 and then they did an animal study in 1975 using lab rats and intentionally infecting it with squamous cell carcinoma which is skin cancer and what they discovered was that when they were exposed to 97.5 percent hydrogen like 2.5 percent oxygen in the atmosphere within two weeks all of those cancerous lesions had completely resolved and it what's interesting to note is that following that research continuous research the United States went black no other research was done okay I don't have the answer to that in looking at all the research there's no there's no logical way to justify why that was done there is certainly conspiracy theory there's politics there's business all those play into it no doubt but there's no logical reason why it should have been stopped from that point forward called additional information relational research regarding that topic kind of be done outside the United States and that's where the Japanese start doing their research and again the Japanese have a medical system it's geared towards genuine disease prevention and they do that because they were genuinely concerned about that big preservation that's different from the way Western medical healthcare system works which never had to undergo that process our medical system was never based on cultural or ethnic preservation it was based on a business model it was developed in the early nineteen hundreds and it's continued to this day so that those are things we have to think about what I have to think about when I'm doing my research is you know do we is Western medicine doing this because it's truly effective or more better than other options or is it because that's the way that clinics can easily build for it and is it easily billable that way because the policies had been put in place where this policy put there okay so in 1975 this was the study that was done by dr. fire you can find this also through I think it's available in PubMed it might have been on a different database what I realized is that a lot of the a lot of the oncology research isn't necessarily replicated PubMed replicates almost all research unless it's oncology it's interesting I think there's political issues involved in that too so just food for thought in 1999 Japanese researchers started figuring out some of the mechanisms of action with regard to hydrogen rich water on tumor cells and the hydrogen which is contained and electrolyzed reduced water that's why it's called reduced as an effect on telomeres on tumor DNA too and there's a little pin caps which allow DNA to replicate and as long as the tumors are long didn't replicate so you don't know exactly why it does this but that electrolyzed reduced water which is rich in hydrogen gas suppresses Tila mares on tumor cells thereby retarding to development the Tor new tumor cells or it appears to be selectively not an OE cells only in tumor cells they don't understand why that's just it appears to be selective okay now also it's important to recognize their radiation exposure causes hydroxyl radicals which are the most cytotoxic free radicals in human body but a hydroxyl radical experience in sorry connects with hydrogen gas what's the byproduct h2o okay so technically speaking in Japan right now they're investigating the routine consumption of electrolyzed reduced water as a countermeasure against nuclear radiation Explorer following the Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster it gets its cost effective perhaps one of the reasons why it's not more utilize the United States is it's a natural substance and it's not patentable and therefore it cannot be highly controlled it cannot be the creation of it can't be artificially suppressed and therefore the price cannot be artificially plated it's curious to note that chemotherapy drug the United States often carry 1000% market compared their sale in foreign countries why is that well when you talk to the department super companies they scratch them as they can't figure it out that's not technically true they just don't want to tell you what the reason is for their called capital bill also they scratch their heads and claim they can't figure it out but their patentable incontrolable right and if they need to increase their profit margins they simply restrict supply does anybody know what the cost of cancer is like on average in United States so I mean for instance if you're diagnosed with cancer on average on average the cost to an American citizen if you're diagnosed regardless of the kind you'll be dead within three to five years and the cost of your care will be three hundred fifty thousand dollars plus you those are the stats one in three of us will be diabetic by the year 2050 if we proceed with the direction that we're going wanting to invest full of cancer and we'll certainly all have cardiovascular disease you if we keep using this same system that we're using okay so it's important for us especially you guys coming into the field to it's important for me to share this information with you not for the sake of beating down pharmacy what company's not going to say criticizing physicians but to open your minds to other options because when you're out there wrestling in the field you're only as good as the tools that you know about and if you know about other options that's going to make you my credit healthcare practitioner okay so if our potential case study undergoes radiotherapy for ovarian cancer was it no barrier for uterine and ovarian okay fortunately we did have a Japanese position here in United States working at the University of Pittsburgh who's also a surgeon and he's been very progressive with regard to research being done stateside again no he's Japanese okay and this was one of the more recent research articles regarding the use of hydrogen rich water to suppress damage caused by arena therapies so in essence what the article says is that if the patient is routinely consuming water enriched with hydrogen gas then it will help to protect all of the other organs against any collateral damage caused by the okay which is often the case the best ones are being treated there other or consider that are affected by the radiation okay same thing for sis applied in abuse nephrotoxicity sis platinum very powerful chemotherapy drug okay often times it causes kidney failure kidney damage hydrogen gas significantly suppresses the damage as you'll know all this research almost all of it is done in Japan any questions what are the barriers to access to this and we he was medically certified allegedly required generation at the university level and those basically ten electrolysis machine has been certified by the medical system in Japan the Ministry of Health Labour over you we can also use the same technology to produce water that's rich in oxygen gas in it we use saline solution instead of water then we can actually produce a very composition fected we can actually produce water that is rich that I it's here it is we can produce an aqueous solution that's reaching about 17 ppm Oh to about 35 ppm free chlorine that's technically called hypochlorous acid and that is not to be confused with hydrochloric acid okay hydrochloric acid will burn your face off at the chlorous acid might dry your skin up okay hyper chlorous acid is actually the same natural bioscience in our white blood cells yeah however what we do know is that we can produce it for basic solvent electricity that your body produces basic salt electricity we just do it on a bigger scale and what's important to note about this is it it's completely biodegradable as it goes in the septic system 12 hours it's completely inert okay we can suppress immerse in 30 seconds or less using this topically yeah so when we start thinking about antibiotic resistance and using all kinds of other synthetic pharmaceutical medications which are done because they're patentable controllable and marketed they can prices can be inflated then we have something that it's not patentable and not really uncontrollable and is completely biodegradable very effective against it's kind of no-brainer isn't it yeah so so then you run into my problem which is and the political judges over here you know which one to drive in a different direction for increased profit margins okay now and the case of hypochlorous acid this is also very important for diabetic patients because they're much more susceptible to lack of blood flow to the lower extremities development of diabetic ulcers and then if infection sets in and potential amputation so the general course the United States is antibiotics to surpass bacterial load and then you know some type of topical wound treatment to help the closure if it happens so we could also use hypochlorous acid topically you know in a medical department it helps when we have a surgeon on board to be able to direct it although is not constant that's the more politics that it is for efficacy okay this article was written 2011 or 2012 actually I think was 2000 as opposed to that 2012 it's called electro chemically activated solutions so that's that's currently the lingo that we use in the clinical environment or hypochlorous acid or any electro chemically produced solution that we can use as a topical disinfectant or like a solvent okay now we ever wrote this is probably really proud like wow PhD I'm going to get a job now they thought there was something new no they were not anything new this was used in nineteen in 1915 world war water okay World War one they used it on hospital ships okay it was actually developed in 1889 as a means of sewage disinfection in London because they could use seawater they could run electricity through seawater they could produce dilute they could route some water the kind I did which they had been used to disinfect sewage with that's how I was initially designed then in World War one it was applied to British and French hospital ships which were military vessels because they had mature electrical systems most means that most municipalities did not so even if you wanted to use this technology for sewage disinfection it still was big it was bulky was the size of this room and it required a customized electrical system which nobody really had at the time but the military always being ahead of the game had sophisticated electrical systems on their ships so they built electrolyzers out of cedar wood carbon electrodes and they don't see water in there because what sea water dirty saving it's dirty saline solutions what it is you already measured your your sodium chloride in there so then they electrolyze that now they add an aqueous solution that was rich and high in oxygen gas and free chlorine which they then use to clean the decks wash the laundry and treat surgical infections retreats surgical minute two minutes well we're gonna have to separate okay so and then the hydrogen rich water which the producer processes they just chocolate reward because the time is worthless if they didn't discover it actually benefits until the Japanese began investigating but the 1930s began investigating plants and animals and then after World War two because they had no pharmaceutical medications their Republican system was completely destroyed all in World War two it was open to other things which is the same thing I'm trying to do with you guys we just open your eyes that they're things and and then they're much better off work because now I have okay so with that said we can use the same technology on that ulceration we had a 71 year old case study last summer where we had a 71 year old diabetic who developed an alteration on the medial side of his right leg just above the ankle it initially started about this big the end of the hole and within four days it was that long about an inch and a half wife went to the oncologist and the oncologist basically said look 71 years old significant cardiovascular disease significant neuropathy you know I'd like to be able to tell you good things but here's a reality probably looking and interpretation now there are some things that I can't say because wrong video right now as I said in other classes so you'll have to ask them what I said but ultimately his wife certainly some things that I also can't share on on the video but but she was aware of the research that was happening at the University and long story short – chlorous acid technically called electrolytic sodium hydrochloride was placed in a container he's christen every four hours within three days yet complete scam over within three weeks he had 75% human resolution within six weeks it was completely healed with all he is gone no use of with no need right abadox whatsoever okay so again there's another way of reducing the dependency antibiotics thereby reducing our risk of being exposed and about existence and then environmental factors of all of that – okay and a spectrum because the hype of course has it worked on this farce campo grande degree positive clean that's that that's a really good question and I've got documentation how it covers that and I don't have around tip of my tongue but if you contacted me emailing good to you okay what we do know just what I read right off the cuff Marissa tux a pneumonia salmonella E coli Staphylococcus and over forty other pathogens it's that's not including fungi bacteria viruses that's what I've ever right off the cuff I don't know and will this be because the adjustable as well generally not it's generally popular with me yeah that's because it's very oxidizing so the good thing though is that even if you did do it it's not gonna have the entire consequences like if your child took a shot glass of alekhya ladies study might be alright they might feel like awkward but they're not gonna die if they took a shot of straight bleach they would be in the emergency room probably dead okay so when we're looking at safety is really no options and if you can also get influential positions you because here's the deal most of them are so tiny strapped they don't have the time to review stuff like this that's why I'm trying that's why Kelly has me here today to work with you guys so you guys are aware because you will end up dancing yeah you know somebody like myself they might take the time to listen they might not the fact that I am an executive on or for community health organization helps but that's certainly no shoo-in and just because I drop clinical evidence on the table doesn't mean they're going to be open to it right or understand you you know and I really had to stick a fork in my eye sometimes because I'm appalled at what some physicians don't understand you and I do I do know that they're tiny strapped but it's frightening sometimes it really is and so I could spend a lot of time complaining about that or I get spend my time educating and I try to choose a lab there's me I don't complain sometimes but I try to focus on the other side that's what it actually is the job you

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