DIY intravenous vitamin C

DIY intravenous vitamin C


Well, I’ve had several people asking me about the intravenous vitamin C that I have been doing, so I thought I’d shoot a little video and let people see my mug, see how I’m doing, since I haven’t done a video for quite a while now. And, I hadn’t done any intravenous vitamin C for awhile, until yesterday. It’s been a… problematic process to do the consistency and frequency of vitamin C infusions that I think I need to be doing. It’s not an ideal situation at all. The clinic that had been doing the infusions for me, the technician there, after doing three or four infusions, for some reason, suddenly freaked out about my HIV status, and was no longer comfortable doing them, and told me that. It was like being kicked in the gut. But, rather than getting angry with him, I realized pretty quickly that he’s just another victim of the ignorance, and the confusion, and the misunderstandings out there. So I pretty much let him off the hook, rather than trying to get revenge or something. As part of the process, he agreed to sell me the supplies and the product to do the infusions myself. All I needed to do was find a nurse. So, that was actually the silver lining of an otherwise bad situation, because it helped move me that much closer to where I want to be and need to be if I’m going to keep doing this: self sufficiency. I can’t afford to continue to go to infusion clinics to have this done. It’s too expensive and I’m not able to do it as often as I think I should be doing it. So, that was a couple of weeks ago. I came home with a two weeks supply of the infusions. The next step was finding a nurse to set me up, to get the needle in a vein and to set up the drip. I called around. I have prescriptions from a doctor I had been seeing. My local family practice doctor also agreed to write a prescription. She was actually pretty excited and enthusiastic about what she was seeing, in terms of how I was doing, both with my labs and with my energy and otherwise, so she was on board with this. That didn’t seem to be enough. This is not covered by Medicare or insurance, and it’s not something that the home health agencies do. They can’t just go to the pharmacy and pick it up, bring it over. So, I was hitting a lot of road blocks that way. I put an ad on Craigslist, very clearly specifying what I was needing, and who I was, and got some responses. Quite a few responses, but they weren’t paying any attention, they didn’t read that I was HIV-positive, they didn’t understand that this wasn’t a full-time job. I was getting resumes, like I was some kind of home health agency, or something. I was getting very discouraged and very frustrated. Finally decided a week ago, I can do this myself because I’ve watched, I’ve had so many blood draws and infusions the last 12 years, it doesn’t look like rocket science, and I had everything I needed. So I mixed up the infusion and I tried to hit my veins, and was not successful. It was… it was a pretty bad night. I even called some friends of mine who are in recovery from intravenous drug use and he came over with his son, who is also a recovering addict, and they… you know, if anybody can hit a vein, it’s a junkie. They were great guys. Really sensitive, nice guys, but they weren’t having any success either. I understand now what the problem was. They’re used to hitting a vein with a needle on a syringe, you draw back and know whether you’re in a vein by looking for the blood. With the infusion, it uses a butterfly needle, which works a little differently. There is a way of knowing when you hit the vein, but I didn’t understand… I didn’t understand what that marker was a week ago. I was out a hundred dollars worth of infusion material. 75 grams of vitamin C down the drain, because it’s only good for about 24 hours after you mix it. My arms were bruised, and um, I went into a funk. My energy was gone. I was sleeping all day, I… don’t know know, even now, which came first, the fatigue and lethargy, or the depression. They feed off of each other, and I’m no stranger to depression. Then, yesterday, Craigslist paid off, and my angel came through. I call her Craig. She’s a 12 year cancer survivor. She knows the flaws of the existing system, and we really hit it off. And she really hit my vein, first time, and made me aware of what I was not seeing before on the butterfly needle. I’m sure, a week ago, I hit a vein more than once, and my friends probably hit a vein. We just didn’t know it. So, it was a learning experience. I got my infusion going, and within… even before is was done… it takes about 90 minutes, and probably an hour or so, I could tell the difference. I could feel some energy returning. It’s so subjective, I feel almost nervous sharing that. I mentioned to Michael, “I’m feeling better already.” And the joke is, he looked at me and he said, “is it the vitamin C,” “or is it just because you’re getting your way finally?” And it’s probably a little bit of both. But regardless, my energy has been vastly improved, I woke up at 1 o’clock this morning, and I’ve been up since then, and it’s now mid-afternoon. The days past, in the last week or two, I would’ve been in bed most of the day. So, this is definitely a learning curve. It’s a learning curve about vitamin C; it’s a learning curve about intravenous infusions; it’s a learning curve about making videos. I took some pictures and videos yesterday, was using a different camera, so the quality is going to be inconsistent. The narrating and editing will probably be choppy, but we’re learning. We’re going to see where this goes. So, the rest of the video is going to show you what the process of preparing the infusion is like, and sitting in a chair with the drip going in, since… since you want to know. These are the components of the infusion that I did yesterday. You see that there are three boxes that have the concentrated ascorbate in them at the front, and infusion bag, a large syringe towards the back, and the clear bottle is magnesium chloride, which is used to help prevent clotting and protect the veins. The ascorbate, or ascorbic acid, is concentrated and comes in 500 ml bottles. There’s 25 grams of vitamin C in each bottle. And, even though you didn’t see it, I did swab the top of this bottle with an alcohol swab before drawing the ascorbate into a large syringe, and then inject the ascrobate into the infusion bag, which is filled with sterile water. I do this with all three bottle of ascorbic acid, as well as 10cc’s of magnesium chloride. I now have a one-liter bag of sterile water with 75 grams of ascorbic acid. This is also 75 grams of vitamin C. Well, so much for the fun stuff. The rest is the hook up and delivery, which we’re not going to cover in much detail in this video. The infusion takes about 90 minutes, which is a good opportunity to read a book, or meditate, or just sit quietly for a bit. The high dose of vitamin C makes you really thirsty, so it’s good to have a bottle of water on hand. And the IV keeps you pretty tethered, so the urinal comes in handy as well. And the IV keeps you pretty tethered, so the urinal comes in handy as well.

70 comments

  1. Hello, I was wondering if I could get a detailed list of the items you are using for this treatment i.e. “IV Administration Set” (dripper)…type of “butterfly” syringe exc. I want to get as much as I can on amazon . Where will I have to go to get the ascorbic acid, magnesium chloride, purified water? All details will be VERY appreciated! Thank you for this rare video on this matter!! -Seattle WA

  2. @trebelclef – Good question, and one I've been asked elsewhere. Sodium ascorbate might be best form of ascorbate to use, according to Dr. Cathcart and others. Find more info about that at the Vitamin C Foundation website. Commercially prepared IVC is buffered ascorbic acid. The difference between those two seems to be minimal, but worth investigating further.

    Using sodium ascorbate would requiring compounding, which adds a layer of complexity for the average patient.

  3. @ac14081408 All of the supplies you are asking about require a doctor's prescription. You will not be able to buy them on Amazon or eBay.

    I would never suggest a novice try to do this on their own if they don't understand these very basic concepts. Find an alternative practitioner or chelation clinic to learn what you need to know, and move forward from there.

    You may also want to read about the FDA's latest effort to restrict IVC on my blog, resistanceisfruitful

  4. I want tio wish you the BEST :0)

    My mother started taking D3 —-> not regular D vitamin.

    When she went to the hospital for a blood test her T-CELL count was so high her doctor flipped out.

    D3 makes your T CELLs work great so google it.

  5. @resistanceisfruitful
    I communicated with Thomas Levy and Owen Fonorrow via email and the do not use IV ascorbic acid, they use sodium ascorbate. There is not extra step, soduim ascorbate is already buffered to the appropriate pH. The Vitamin C Foundation has instructions on how to make it.

  6. @32GaugeSlug I do not know whether "HIV" exists, but I suspect it does. What I think is of greater import is the question of "what" is HIV? The explanation proposed by Janine Roberts, author of "Fear of the Invisible" seems more than plausible to me. It seems likely to be part of the answer.

    AIDS is real and is a condition that manifests in many ways and has multiple causes, including co-factors. "HIV" is a cellular messenger that is created by our own bodies as a signal of immune distress.

  7. @trebelclef the discoverer of vitamin C, for which he won a nobel prize, did his own high dose vitamin C infusions, but it was the synthetic ascorvic acid. At the end of his life he discovered his mistake, and died shortly after. However, trying to convince people that synthetic vitamins are harmful, is like trying to convince them that democrats and republicans are the same thing in congress.

  8. @shakaama: The Nobel Prize winner you are referring to must be Linus Pauling, a chemist. It makes sense that his work was with synthetic components. While I agree that natural sources of nutrients are preferable, it is hard to imagine being able to do high dose IV therapy with them. The Pauling Institute at Oregon State University states: "Natural and synthetic L-ascorbic acid are chemically identical and there are no known differences in their biological activities or bioavailabilities ."

  9. @annie46664 : You and I share more in common than not. Where I disagree, apparently, is the correlation that has been observed so often between "HIV-positivity" (whatever the heck that is), and chronic, degenerative illness. Even The Perth Group acknowledges that "HIV" means something…. we just don't know what it is, and it is different for different people. I'm currently of the mind that HIV is a retrotransposon; a cellular messenger that indicates there is a problem at the cellular level.

  10. Have you heard of Liposome-encapsulated vitamin C? It is a form of vitamin C that is taken orally and is reported to be as or more effective than IV vitamin C. It can be bought from livon labs. There are also DIY instructions on youtube and the internet how to make your own Liposome-encapsulated vitamin C. Just do a google search.

  11. It's called editing and being responsible. I don't allow off-topic comments, personal attacks or spam via the comments on my channel.

    Now let me ask you: why should that bother you?

  12. Very interesting question. I test the pH of my morning urine regularly. About half the time it is exactly neutral. The rest of the time it is either slightly acidic or slightly alkaline.

    When I test my pH immediately after an IVC, it has always been alkaline.

    This is a very misunderstood topic,imo. For example, I have found that the best treatment for acid reflux is apple cider vinegar.

    The body has an incredible capacity to adjust. Trying to force it to be alkaline may be counterproductive.

  13. I've used silver topically for MRSA and other skin infections. I'm not comfortable taking it internally for any length of time. The typical consumer has no way of knowing the composition, strength or other qualities of silver preparations.

  14. All intravenous drugs (and that includes ascorbate) and supplies (fluids, drip lines and needles) are regulated by the FDA. That agency is aggressively targeting intravenous vitamin C. My experience with using powdered ascorbate for intravenous use has not been a pleasant one, and I cannot in good conscience encourage others to try it.

    My advice is to find a good orthomolecular clinic or chelation clinic, and find out if you are a candidate for IVC.

  15. Yes, lipospheric vitamin C is a great option. Not cheap, but it does permit higher doses than conventional vitamin C.

  16. You can find your answer by searching "bowel tolerance". The maximum amount of vitamin C a person can tolerate varies greatly.

  17. I've been getting a lot of questions about specifics regarding IVC. One of the best resources I know of is the Vitamin C Foundation's website and forum. You'll have to google the site; youtube, in it's infinite wisdom, will not allow me to post a link, like vitamincfoundation org (replace the space with a dot).

  18. Depending on your goals, liposomal may be one of the best alternatives for people to get high dose vitamin C, at levels not possible otherwise, due to bowel tolerance.

    Since I can get the IVC kits, that continues to be my personal choice, because I think it does have an edge over lipo for people with serious illnesses, including cancer, that require a very high serum level to active hydrogen peroxide, which is ultimately the presumed "killer" of diseased cells.

  19. I am currently doing 75 grams of IVC in about an hour, to quickly get the maximum concentration in my blood serum.

    I'm not sure that level is really even possible with lipo, nor am I inclined to find out. Have you ever tasted the stuff?!

    Cheers!

  20. I have tasted it and it's really not bad. Its kind of like a very tart egg nog. If flavor is an issue, mixing it into a fruit smoothing is not a bad idea. Anyway, it's an option if ever you cannot get your IV C supplies. Good luck!

  21. Hi do you mind telling us where you get your iv kit from? I live in the UK and have thought about doing just this for ages now, unfortunately we don't have access to iv kits here in the UK. Also have you seen 'Annie46664's YT Channel, there is a lot of good info on hiv on her site, she lives in South Africa.

  22. I have no idea how hard it is to get IV supplies in the U.K. Here in the U.S. everything is regulated, including the bags of saline, or sterile water.

    I get my IVC supplies from a clinic, and signed an agreement to have a home health nurse administer it.

    Chelation clinics often offer IVC as well. You'll have to check around to find out if any physicians there will prescribe and provide the supplies for doing it at home.

  23. Jonathen, I think you would benefit from the IV, AND the Liposomal C, taken together. I believe Dr Levy said this is the ideal way to go to 'wash' your cells with ascorbate. .Just a thought I'd share with you.

  24. hi there can you tell me how much vit c you take orally as i have fybromyalgia and i am in sooo much pain
    i have already made the mixture up with some help
    thanks marie

  25. How much do you have per day? I would think that 75 is about the maximum for a day, and if you don't mind me asking, how much is the kit and 75grams of Vit C? And so then i'm guessing that it is a daily cost for you? Or twice daily maybe.

  26. Yup Its impossible to get an IV drip bag…i have ordered the Vit C IV on line in ampules….i suppose i will have to add it to a drip bag to slow down the rate…..i have cancer and it is spreading fast….doc wants £7500 for 5 weeks….i would rather do it myself…but getting the drip bag is hard…ordered butterfly syringe too….

  27. Depending on where you are from, you might try to find a nurse with experience in venipuncture who will help with the infusion. It takes practice to be able to hit your own vein. I actually found someone on craigslist who has helped me out a few times.

    I hope your online supplier is reputable. Best wishes, and good luck.

  28. sadly UK….i dont have many veins as it is ….it would have to be added to a drip bag with some solutions to slow it down….uk has loads of restictions ….ill look on craigs list thanks

  29. nope i have looked on craigs list ….i have tried for ages cant find anyone…..i cant even buy a drip to add the Vit C to ..thanks

  30. I placed an ad in "gigs" on craigslist and specified what I was looking for. I doubt you'll find nurses advertising there. LOL. In this case, someone was between jobs, AND they were interested in what I was doing. I've never revealed who it is, to protect their privacy. They could probably lose their job for helping me.

  31. Not sure the demand is huge, and there are more hurdles than just finding a nurse. You have to get the supplies prescribed by a doctor, and most of those will require the patient to have their infusions done in their clinic, for obvious reasons. While IVC is very safe intravenous infusions can be tricky. I've reported on a couple of adverse reactions to doing "homemade" intravenous vitamin C. I strongly discourage anyone else to attempt it.

  32. Dr. Michelle Alpert in NYC — she's a wonderful amazing loving person — gave IV vitamin C drips to me and many other people starting in 1989 and going forward.  I think that helped me get an edge on my "disease" since I was poz in 1985 and am still alive now.  Dr. Alpert also had cancer people, and people with other illnesses, and everyone went regularly and said they felt good.  I used to go 2-3 times a week until about 2008, when I moved out of NYC.  I think it helped my physical state.  I had one doctor since then who said it was probably mind over matter, and I said who cares, it helped me, so it doesn't matter if it was physiological or psychological.  It worked.  I could see it in my labs.  I could feel it in my being.  From my soul, I recommend any of you who are reading this, try it.  It certainly can't hurt.  I am still alive and here to tell you that.

  33. New research continues to validate the benefit of high dose intravenous vitamin C for ovarian cancer.

    http://www.kumc.edu/news-listing-page/intravenous-ascorbate-with-chemotherapy.html

  34. Jonathan, I like your video but I need more detailed information.  I've been doing my own IV therapy for the last 4 years using Alpha Lipoic Acid. I have Hep C. It works great, but would also like to do The Vitamin C treatment.  I need to know the strength of the treatment. Bottles come in 500mg/ml and in 50ml size. (McGuffs Pharmacy) So how much do you put in for each treatment? One of these bottles would be 25,000 mg or 25 grams. You also said you add Magnesium Chloride, what is the strength of that and how much?  Is there anything else that needs to be added? Finally, how did you get the products….was it prescription? I'd love to talk as well, let me know if that is possible too.  I think I can add some helpful information, since I've done this for so long.  Thanks…..Don

  35. I'm sure if people can get illegal anabolic steroids then one could get all they need for self administration of vitamin c. I always wanted to try as a recovery tool for NATURAL weight training  but it's so expensive. Have you considered writing a small article and posting a link in the description?

  36. I am little bit confused. You said each bottle is 500ml and containing 25 ml of vitamin C.
    Is it really 500ml (half litre)? On the this video bottles are to small for 500ml size? I wish you all the best. 

  37. Hi Johnathan. How much per 75 gram dose? Im trying to help a person here in Australia,but its not so easy to get the supplies over here.
    Thanks !

  38. Great video and inspiring story Jonathan.   Thanks for sharing.

    I still didn't figure out though what the trick was to know you hit a vein.   But otherwise great story and glad you found your angel!

  39. hi Jonathan a couple of questions if I may. Firstly let me reassure you I don't intend to try this at home but am genuinely keen on being informed. The drip contains sterile water which is presumably specific to IV drips and then you added ascorbic acid or sodium ascorabte? and then potassium chloride?  Is this the standard protocol that Doctors use in the US?  Also is it possible to make your own IV vitamin C? It is in solution so is it mixed with pure sodium chloride and water etc?  Thank you for your help. First class video.

  40. My friend, why you even pay for it?! Why IV? 😀 I mix ascorbic acid and baking soda in distilled/sterile water to make sodium ascorbate and I go for intramuscular injection. IV has a few problems and the one that bothers me the most is the fact that it enters the blood too fast and kidneys take it out of your system very rapidly! When you go for intramuscular injection, the liquid will be absorbed slowly from your muscle into the blood and you will have higher levels of vitamin C in your blood for much longer period of time. I am ingesting about 20 grams of self made sodium ascorbate (2 grams every hour) orally every day and also injecting 10 grams into my muscles 🙂

  41. Watched your vid …. Can relate to a point how hard it is to communicate what you need and if the " system " does not provide that substance or service … your screwed .

    Here is my question ?
    Have you tried any Silver / colloidal silver , I have seen studies that show promise for HIV .
    Reason I ask .
    I want to do silver IV .. any experience or help on getting it done .. perhaps IE do it yourself .
    Thanks

  42. well done! My only concern is, that you use ascorbic acid, rather than sodium ascorbate solution, which is totally harmless to your veins as it is not an acid. get well!

  43. Good for you doing your research and pushing so hard for your health! Loved the video. I want to get equipment like this and find some nurses to have on hand in case I want iv vitamin C for myself or my family. God bless!

  44. It is my understanding that liposomal vitamin C raises blood levels more than IV Vitamin C. Have you looked into this. Also get your copper levels checked with a copper RBC blood test. A lot of vitamin C can cause a copper diffeciency. Copper deficiency has been linked to aortic aneurysms and you don't want that.

  45. Hi Jon, would you say that a person could do their own IVs all by themselves, given the proper training on how to do them? I don't have anyone to help me nor anywhere that I can go for treatments, but everyone i've asked (including nurses) say that putting an IV on yourself is pretty much impossible just from a mechanical standpoint. Any thoughts?

  46. Jonathan I am writing a book on intravenous vitamin C (about 150 pages done, nearly complete), specifically in the treatment of cancer, and the avenue you are using I think can and should be an approach all IVC patients (and prospective patients) should know and have at their disposal. You're a pioneer here and I'm hoping you can help me out. Can you recommend how I can get more information on the self-administration strategy? Thank you immensely. David

  47. vitamin c in high doses acts like Oxidative Therapy but in small doses it acts like anti oxidant even lyposomal c is to little to be oxidative .when it come to lyposomal c you body cant hold more then 12 to 15 grams of c it will come out in your urine you will see yellow urine so lyposoaml cant act as axidative
    so if you want the effect of high doses of vitamin c for less and for cheep and with no doctor prescription there is a solution its direct ozone injection
    its does the same oxidative effect ,but you will need to learn how to inject it into your vain (no pain no gain)
    all together will cost you about 1500 from promolife and if you supplement with lyposomal c it will boost the effect
    remember not to do to much of ozone you will get allergy reaction( small rush on the body) to ozone (it will go away ,then you can start again)

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